Showing posts with label God's Word. Show all posts
Showing posts with label God's Word. Show all posts

Lying

We collected some verses that show what the bible has to say about liars.


Lev 19:11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

Psa 101:7 He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight.

Pro 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Pro 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Hos 7:13 Woe unto them! for they have fled from me: destruction unto them! because they have transgressed against me: though I have redeemed them, yet they have spoken lies against me.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Col 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

1Jo 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth.

1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.




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The Same Old Arguments All Over Again

Since I have heard these same arguments over and over again in the past few days, let me write yet again on the issue of biblical marriage... Let me quote from emails I received and then point out briefly the obvious flaws and inconsistencies.

1.
"We don't believe in polygamy, we are believe that God started out with one male and one female because that is what his idea of a family was. One husband one wife."
"Genesis 2:24 states "that is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body."God created one wife for Adam, not several wives."

If that argument was consistently followed, there would be no family as such: God also didn't create any children, and "one man one woman" still doesn't make a family.

Of course the "two" of them shall be one flesh, since that is what biblical marriage is constituted by, a commitment, two at a time though, not three or four or five.

If people want to go by the garden of Eden as their example, they will have to be consistent in that, and will probably have difficulties to get children into the equation, for Adam only "knew" his wife for the first time after the fall. To be consistent, they will also have to go naked (in a world where there is no rain) and eat fruits from the trees, which people neither can do anymore nor want to for the most part. To use a pre-fall state of man to argue against polygamy is rather poor, if this is the only (!) aspect of the pre-fall state that is still held up as an ideal that we should strive for today.


2.
"The God never intended man to have more than one wife and throughout scripture men with multiple wives fell into sin and had all sorts of variable problems, from Cain to Solomon you see nothing but trouble due to this."
"Though examples of polygamy exist in the Bible, it's always accompanied by some degree of heartbreak and even sin. From Abraham, Sarah and Hagar (though she wasn't a wife, more a concubine) to Solomon and his hundreds of wives, polygamy always causes trouble."

When it comes to God "never intending" man to have more than one wife, why in the world would He have given David all his wives, as you can read in 2 Sam 12:8.

When it comes to "strife" and that would be the argument, then you should not have two sons either (look at Abel and Cain, or Jacob and Esau), nor two daughters (look at Leah and Rachel). You can even argue that it was probably best to never marry in the first place, since it was Eve that was deceived and then dragged Adam into the deal, which we are all suffering from still. You can even quote Paul on that one (1Co 7:7) wishing everybody was unmarried like he was. How ridiculous this is in the light of the dominion covenant should be self evident.


3.
"The New Testament states one man one woman."

Where does it ? It doesn't. If this statement refers to Mat 19, as it usually does, it refers to a situation in which Jesus talks about divorce and not marriage, so that argument doesn't work either since they argue apples and oranges here.



4.
"In modern times, when we do hear of polygamists in this country, we invariably find that the women are being exploited by the men, sometimes supporting the men through their own work and sometimes even going on welfare as "single mothers" then turning over the check to the "husbands"."
"Recently there have been lots of programs on the news channels exploring this lifestyle, and the more I hear about it, the more I disapprove. As XXXX [name edited out] said, the women appear to be brainwashed and exploited, and I can't imagine how hard it must be to be a child growing up in that environment with 50 or 60 siblings in one house. More like an orphanage if you ask me."
"I don't know of any mainstream Christian faith that accepts polygamy in its doctrine, and most consider it a sinful aberration."

People seem to draw their ideas from television, the news, and from the actions of fundamentalist Mormons rather than from the bible. Do we see Jacob having 50-60 children who live more like in an orphanage ? Do we have any biblical example for things like brain washing, welfare fraud or the like ? No, we don't, so the accusations are against people who they hear about in the news, and the assumption is that God cannot want something like that, therefore God condemns polygamy. When judging whether or not polygamy is Christian, though, one should look at the bible, and neither at "mainstream Christianity" nor at the examples the media presents.

And please don't forget: It is not by accident that you hear so much about polygamy in the media these days. Since a current Republican presidential nominee has a Mormon background, one should be especially aware of the propaganda that's dished out left and right.


5.
"Not to mention that in most countries, polygamy is illegal."

If you look at statistics, this assessment is inaccurate and reveals a rather limited world view, but let's continue arguing from a biblical perspective. This statement offers the view that Christians should obey the law of the state... but only as long as it is not in conflict with God's law, of course, since we can only show God that we love Him by keeping His commandments (Joh 14:15). And if people had always thought this same way about home schooling too, for example, it would still be next to impossible to home school your children in this country. But of course many good Christians nowadays take advantage of the fight people like Mr. Yoder fought against the state of Wisconsin, and take for granted their right to educate their children at home simply because it is (no longer) illegal to do so.


6.
"I don't believe the Lord approves of this, nor do I."

The fact that this person does not believe that God approves of polygamy does not make it true. When it comes down to it, people rely on God agreeing with their views, instead of the other way round.


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Obstacles on the Way to God- #9

9. There will be no Judgment when Jesus returns.

Examples from Scripture that refute this notion:
  • "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." (Dan 12:1-2)
  • "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." (Mat 13:41-43)
  • "So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." (Mat 13:49-50)
  • "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Rev 20:12)
There is not denying the fact that there will be Judgment on the Last Day, and everyone will be held accountable for what he and she did with his and her life, and the laws we will be judged by will be God's Law ("iniquity" can also be translated as "lawlessness"), His "book of life".


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Obstacles on the Way to God- #7

7. The bible is to be understood mainly culturally.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." (2Ti 3:16-17).

If the bible is to be understood mainly culturally, Paul's statement is a lie.

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Obstacles on the Way to God - #4

4. There is going to be a pre-trib rapture.

Examples from Scripture that refute this notion:
  • Jesus prepares His disciples for the tribulations they will have to go through before He comes back: Mat 24 and 25 (the parable of the sheep and goats refers to unbelievers who help the brethren in tribulations as being saved for the love they show to God's people), Mar 13, Luk 21.
  • Mat 24:40-41 does not speak about pre-trib rapture because those "taken" in the times of Noah were the ones that died in the flood, whereas the ones that were "left" were Noah and his family.
  • 1Th 4:17 does not support a pre-trib rapture teaching because those that are "caught up together" are those that are still alive when the Son of Man comes, but He does not come back until AFTER the tribulations (Mat 24:29-30), and he that endures until the end will be saved (Mat 24:13).

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Obstacles on the Way to God

3. Jesus' death on the cross reversed the Fall and changed man's sinful nature back to its original pre-fall state.

Examples from Scripture that refute this notion:

  • Christ Himself warns His disciples against false prophets who will come and try to deceive even the elect (Mat 7:15; 24:11,24; Mar 13:22). This would have been unnecessary had men's fallen nature been rectified by Christ's death on the cross.
  • The warnings of the apostles we read about AFTER Christ's death and resurrection should have been unnecessary too. But we read instead that people are as wicked as they have always been, and that "false teachers" and "false prophets" have come into the world. (Rom Chapters 1 and 2, 2Pe 2:1; 1Joh 4:1).

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